Some insights from Alex about his second day at #COP30 and the side event at the Nordic Pavilion we jointly organized Johan Rockström and his team at the PIK - Potsdam Institute for Climate Impact Research as well as the team at Nordic Council of Ministers. Thank you for everyone's help who made this event possible!
#COP30, Day 2 After a little rough night (I’m no longer as used to sleeping in a hammock as in my earlier years), the supposedly 20-minute bus ride took about an hour in the heavy morning traffic of Belém. So I had to run the last 300 metres from the bus stop to the conference centre, which was enough to get me soaked in sweat. First, I joined another panel discussion with colleagues at GESDA on scientific breakthroughs and the climate resilience of ecosystems, this time also focusing on how quantum computing and quantum sensors might help us simulate and study ecosystem changes in a more efficient and energy-saving manner. Next, I did a TV interview together with Eric W. Sanderson at New York Botanical Garden on how botanical gardens can support restoration efforts worldwide. Botanical gardens hold invaluable knowledge in their science and horticultural staff; their living and dried collections provide key information for restoring ecosystems; and the gardens themselves function as ‘living labs’ for tree selection and monitoring. I then met with Ana Asti, working for the state of Rio de Janeiro on environmental and sustainability matters, and her team, to discuss how ecological corridors could help the state achieve its restoration goals to benefit biodiversity, climate and people. After that, I attended the launch of the Swedish pavilion and had the opportunity to discuss research and conservation collaborations between Sweden, Brazil, and the UK at length with Karin Wallensteen, the Swedish Ambassador to Brazil. A few more meetings and I finally headed for today’s final event, a panel discussion between Johan Rockström and me about the synergies and trade-offs in pursuing political agendas that focus on climate or biodiversity separately, rather than jointly. I highlighted the dangers of trying to solve one crisis by making another worse (e.g., through the planting of exotic monocultures that capture carbon but destroy biodiversity). Johan made interesting connections between solving the COVID pandemic and addressing the climate crisis (e.g., if we hear bad news every day, we may all start taking things more seriously). The constant heat and humidity, the long distances between pavilions, and my lack of time to wait in the food queues (meaning that I basically had no time to eat) were quite exhausting, so I decided to call it a day in the early evening. Learnings: - I’m impressed by the interest of the politicians I meet in working more closely with scientists - Time and again, “more plants, less meat” emerges as a critical contribution to some of the biggest challenges we face. - I’m no longer taking my jacket with me. Random: - Since everyone is complaining about the poor logistics, I want instead to make a shout-out for the hundreds of amazing volunteers and staff working incredibly hard to make this event run smoothly. This is not Frankfurt, it’s the Amazon – so I hope people stop complaining.